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	<title>Comments on: Cell Phone Ban effective October 26, 2009 on Ontario&#8217;s highways, streets &amp; roads.</title>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-5857</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 01:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Yanic: Pursuant to this law(Bill 118 – Countering Distracted Driving and Promoting Green Transportation Act, 2009) there are no demerit points accumulated with the conviction under this new law.  There is only a fine.  Remember to always http://fightyourtickets.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Yanic: Pursuant to this law(Bill 118 – Countering Distracted Driving and Promoting Green Transportation Act, 2009) there are no demerit points accumulated with the conviction under this new law.  There is only a fine.  Remember to always <a href="http://fightyourtickets.ca" rel="nofollow">http://fightyourtickets.ca</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yanic</title>
		<link>http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-5849</link>
		<dc:creator>Yanic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just so happened that as soon as I was pulling in to a 4 way stop my wife called me on my cell phone. I of course answered it at the same time a police officer was parked at the same 4 way stop. Of course he pulls me over and hands me a $155 ticket for using a held communication device. Now, I agree what I did is considerred illegal in Ontario, but what if it were an emergency? Either way, I am willing to pay this set fine and will not complain. My big question is does this ticket accumulate any demerit points on my driver&#039;s licence? Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just so happened that as soon as I was pulling in to a 4 way stop my wife called me on my cell phone. I of course answered it at the same time a police officer was parked at the same 4 way stop. Of course he pulls me over and hands me a $155 ticket for using a held communication device. Now, I agree what I did is considerred illegal in Ontario, but what if it were an emergency? Either way, I am willing to pay this set fine and will not complain. My big question is does this ticket accumulate any demerit points on my driver&#8217;s licence? Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-5732</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Zazzy: there are certain cellphone manufacturers that sell cellphones that are capable of being used 
               for quick or rapid conversations and can be compared to handheld two way radios or walkie-talkies.
               The Legislation you refer to is Bill 118 - Countering Distracted Driving and Promoting Green Transportation Act, 2009
               and it refers to &quot;hand held communication devices&quot;
              
&lt;strong&gt; How can a driver, operating a motor vehicle in Ontario, make or accept a phone call without violating this law?&lt;/strong&gt;

If driver’s, driving in Ontario want to initiate outgoing phone calls or accept incoming phone calls, the law provides for the use of hands-free devices (ie.-headsets, bluetooth technology, OnStar, etc.).

If you want to use your communication (that is not a hands-free device) or entertainment device, in compliance with the law, 
while you are behind the wheel in a motor vehicle, you must meet these conditions:
- the motor vehicle you are operating, is off the roadway or is lawfully parked on the roadway.
- the motor vehicle you are operating, is not in motion (this doesn’t include a “traffic light” or “stop sign”)
- the motor vehicle you are operating, is not impeding traffic.

If you use your cell phone as a phone or walkie-talkie or a hand-held two way radio, you are violating
the law (unless you are using bluetooth or wireless technology to initiate or to receive a call) or you have pulled
your vehicle off of the road and you are lawfully parked.

Remember to always http://fightyourtickets.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zazzy: there are certain cellphone manufacturers that sell cellphones that are capable of being used<br />
               for quick or rapid conversations and can be compared to handheld two way radios or walkie-talkies.<br />
               The Legislation you refer to is Bill 118 &#8211; Countering Distracted Driving and Promoting Green Transportation Act, 2009<br />
               and it refers to &#8220;hand held communication devices&#8221;</p>
<p><strong> How can a driver, operating a motor vehicle in Ontario, make or accept a phone call without violating this law?</strong></p>
<p>If driver’s, driving in Ontario want to initiate outgoing phone calls or accept incoming phone calls, the law provides for the use of hands-free devices (ie.-headsets, bluetooth technology, OnStar, etc.).</p>
<p>If you want to use your communication (that is not a hands-free device) or entertainment device, in compliance with the law,<br />
while you are behind the wheel in a motor vehicle, you must meet these conditions:<br />
- the motor vehicle you are operating, is off the roadway or is lawfully parked on the roadway.<br />
- the motor vehicle you are operating, is not in motion (this doesn’t include a “traffic light” or “stop sign”)<br />
- the motor vehicle you are operating, is not impeding traffic.</p>
<p>If you use your cell phone as a phone or walkie-talkie or a hand-held two way radio, you are violating<br />
the law (unless you are using bluetooth or wireless technology to initiate or to receive a call) or you have pulled<br />
your vehicle off of the road and you are lawfully parked.</p>
<p>Remember to always <a href="http://fightyourtickets.ca" rel="nofollow">http://fightyourtickets.ca</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zazzy</title>
		<link>http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-5730</link>
		<dc:creator>Zazzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Need clarification.  What about cell phone that have 10-4 capablities.  Can they be used while driving down the road?  Can&#039;t find this information online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need clarification.  What about cell phone that have 10-4 capablities.  Can they be used while driving down the road?  Can&#8217;t find this information online.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-5195</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Barb: See Bill 118: http://www.ontla.on.ca/bills/bills-files/39_Parliament/Session1/b118ra.pdf 

It reads as follows: 

Driving a motor vehicle with the display screen of a television, computer or other device visible to the driver is prohibited. The display screens of global positioning system navigation devices, hand-held communication and similar prescribed devices, commercially-used logistical transportation tracking systems, collision avoidance systems and instruments, gauges and systems providing information regarding the status of systems of the motor vehicle are exempted from the prohibition. Drivers of ambulances, fire department vehicles and police department vehicles are also exempted. The Minister of Transportation may provide for further exemptions by regulation.
 
Driving while holding or using a hand-held wireless communication device or electronic entertainment device is prohibited. &lt;strong&gt;Use of such devices in the hands-free mode is exempted.&lt;/strong&gt; Use of such devices while the motor vehicle is off the travelled part of the road, not in motion and not impeding traffic is exempted. Drivers of ambulances, fire department vehicles and police department vehicles are exempted from the prohibitions respecting hand-held wireless communication devices, as are any drivers using the devices to contact ambulance, police or fire department emergency services. The Minister of Transportation may prohibit holding or using other devices by regulation and may provide for further exemptions by regulation.

The intention of this legislation is to stop motorist&#039;s from being distracted (while looking at their cellphone or other electronic gadgets and taking their eyes off of the road) while driving. 

The following Provinces: Newfoundland &amp; Labrador, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, Quebec, Manitoba and British Columbia have passed similar legislation and before you enter those Provinces, it would be a good idea to quickly review that legislation, see: http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/ . New York has passed similar legislation (on March 16, 2009 in a one day blitz, law enforcement handed out 9016 $120.00 summonses to drivers who were using their cellphones, see: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/03/13/2009-03-13_cops_hand_out_9000_tickets_to_drivers_ta.html ) but would not issue tickets for the situation you described.

In the State of Ohio, on the other hand, has adopted legislation which strictly prohibits drivers operating motor vehicles from wearing earphones, headsets, or earplugs in both ears. Ontario hasn&#039;t passed this legislation yet. 

Bluetooth headset devices shouldn&#039;t be a problem.  Remember to always http://fightyourtickets.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Barb: See Bill 118: <a href="http://www.ontla.on.ca/bills/bills-files/39_Parliament/Session1/b118ra.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ontla.on.ca/bills/bills-files/39_Parliament/Session1/b118ra.pdf</a> </p>
<p>It reads as follows: </p>
<p>Driving a motor vehicle with the display screen of a television, computer or other device visible to the driver is prohibited. The display screens of global positioning system navigation devices, hand-held communication and similar prescribed devices, commercially-used logistical transportation tracking systems, collision avoidance systems and instruments, gauges and systems providing information regarding the status of systems of the motor vehicle are exempted from the prohibition. Drivers of ambulances, fire department vehicles and police department vehicles are also exempted. The Minister of Transportation may provide for further exemptions by regulation.</p>
<p>Driving while holding or using a hand-held wireless communication device or electronic entertainment device is prohibited. <strong>Use of such devices in the hands-free mode is exempted.</strong> Use of such devices while the motor vehicle is off the travelled part of the road, not in motion and not impeding traffic is exempted. Drivers of ambulances, fire department vehicles and police department vehicles are exempted from the prohibitions respecting hand-held wireless communication devices, as are any drivers using the devices to contact ambulance, police or fire department emergency services. The Minister of Transportation may prohibit holding or using other devices by regulation and may provide for further exemptions by regulation.</p>
<p>The intention of this legislation is to stop motorist&#8217;s from being distracted (while looking at their cellphone or other electronic gadgets and taking their eyes off of the road) while driving. </p>
<p>The following Provinces: Newfoundland &amp; Labrador, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, Quebec, Manitoba and British Columbia have passed similar legislation and before you enter those Provinces, it would be a good idea to quickly review that legislation, see: <a href="http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/" rel="nofollow">http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/</a> . New York has passed similar legislation (on March 16, 2009 in a one day blitz, law enforcement handed out 9016 $120.00 summonses to drivers who were using their cellphones, see: <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/03/13/2009-03-13_cops_hand_out_9000_tickets_to_drivers_ta.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/03/13/2009-03-13_cops_hand_out_9000_tickets_to_drivers_ta.html</a> ) but would not issue tickets for the situation you described.</p>
<p>In the State of Ohio, on the other hand, has adopted legislation which strictly prohibits drivers operating motor vehicles from wearing earphones, headsets, or earplugs in both ears. Ontario hasn&#8217;t passed this legislation yet. </p>
<p>Bluetooth headset devices shouldn&#8217;t be a problem.  Remember to always <a href="http://fightyourtickets.ca" rel="nofollow">http://fightyourtickets.ca</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-5188</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

There are a few bluetooth devices that have two ear pieces and can be used as a normal bluetooth headset would be in addition to acting as stero headphones for bluetooth enabled audio systems.  Are these legal to use while dirivng for answering calls only in Ontario?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>There are a few bluetooth devices that have two ear pieces and can be used as a normal bluetooth headset would be in addition to acting as stero headphones for bluetooth enabled audio systems.  Are these legal to use while dirivng for answering calls only in Ontario?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4173</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Charanjeet: the Provincial Government is enacting this law (Bill 118) on October 26, 2009, but will be providing a &quot;grace period&quot;, (between Oct.26/09 and Jan.31/10) which will act as a period of time to educate or inform the public about this new law, which will be strictly enforced commencing February 1, 2010 see: http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/

You can have your GPS properly mounted on your dashboard (although the McGuinty government has yet to clarify what &quot;properly mounted&quot; actually means - which could be problematic for alot of motorists, come February 1, 2010).  Hopefully between October 26/09 and January 31, 2010 the government (Ministry of Transportation&#039;s Minister &lt;a href=&quot;http://toronto.ctv.ca/tl/photo.html?pname=http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20081028/450_cp_transport_081028.jpg&amp;win_width=845.0&amp;description=Ontario%20Transportation%20Minister%20Jim%20Bradley%20drives%20in%20a%20simulation%20car%20ride%20called%20D.U.M.B.%20(Distractions%20Undermining%20Motorists%20Behaviour)%20while%20trying%20to%20make%20a%20phone%20call%20at%20an%20announcement%20in%20Toronto,%20Tuesday,%20Oct.%2028,%202008.%20(Jim%20Ross%20/%20THE%20CANADIAN%20PRESS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jim Bradley&lt;/a&gt;) clarifies what constitutes &quot;properly mounted&quot; GPS. There are all kinds of distractions within every motor vehicle, which requires ones attention, even briefly.

Remember to always http://fightyourtickets.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charanjeet: the Provincial Government is enacting this law (Bill 118) on October 26, 2009, but will be providing a &#8220;grace period&#8221;, (between Oct.26/09 and Jan.31/10) which will act as a period of time to educate or inform the public about this new law, which will be strictly enforced commencing February 1, 2010 see: <a href="http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/" rel="nofollow">http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/</a></p>
<p>You can have your GPS properly mounted on your dashboard (although the McGuinty government has yet to clarify what &#8220;properly mounted&#8221; actually means &#8211; which could be problematic for alot of motorists, come February 1, 2010).  Hopefully between October 26/09 and January 31, 2010 the government (Ministry of Transportation&#8217;s Minister <a href="http://toronto.ctv.ca/tl/photo.html?pname=http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20081028/450_cp_transport_081028.jpg&amp;win_width=845.0&amp;description=Ontario%20Transportation%20Minister%20Jim%20Bradley%20drives%20in%20a%20simulation%20car%20ride%20called%20D.U.M.B.%20(Distractions%20Undermining%20Motorists%20Behaviour)%20while%20trying%20to%20make%20a%20phone%20call%20at%20an%20announcement%20in%20Toronto,%20Tuesday,%20Oct.%2028,%202008.%20(Jim%20Ross%20/%20THE%20CANADIAN%20PRESS" rel="nofollow">Jim Bradley</a>) clarifies what constitutes &#8220;properly mounted&#8221; GPS. There are all kinds of distractions within every motor vehicle, which requires ones attention, even briefly.</p>
<p>Remember to always <a href="http://fightyourtickets.ca" rel="nofollow">http://fightyourtickets.ca</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charanjeet Mehan</title>
		<link>http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-4162</link>
		<dc:creator>Charanjeet Mehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My general understanding is that perhaps the rules mean that the GPS system available on the cellphones is not to be used as some drivers have the habit of holding the cellphones, looking at the GPS navigation ( checking the route to destination) while driving. If the GPS is mounted on the dashboard ( which means, it is not hand-held ), then it should be ok. If you consider distraction, then the rear view mirror is also a distraction while driving. But you need a split second to have a glance on the rear view. 

Your comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My general understanding is that perhaps the rules mean that the GPS system available on the cellphones is not to be used as some drivers have the habit of holding the cellphones, looking at the GPS navigation ( checking the route to destination) while driving. If the GPS is mounted on the dashboard ( which means, it is not hand-held ), then it should be ok. If you consider distraction, then the rear view mirror is also a distraction while driving. But you need a split second to have a glance on the rear view. </p>
<p>Your comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-3856</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Maria: You would only receive six (6) points if you were convicted of &quot;careless driving&quot; pursuant to section 130 of the &lt;em&gt;Highway Traffic Act&lt;/em&gt;. This is what the Police use to charge motorists with when they committed acts that fell under the heading of &quot;careless driving&quot; ie - using your cellphone when operating a motor vehicle, which caused the driver to be distracted and affected the safety of themselves and others sharing the road. Now that this new law ( See sections 78 (1) to 78.1 (subsections 1-8 inclusive) of the &lt;em&gt;Highway Traffic Act&lt;/em&gt;) has been passed, police now have the option to charge motorists under this law (which, upon conviction, will not come with demerit points, but may well cost the driver up to a $500 fine).

The Police still have the option (if the driver is driving carelessly while speaking on their cell phone, etc.) to charge the operator of the motor vehicle with careless driving, rather than just ticket them under sections 78(1) to 78.1 subsections 1-8 inclusive of the &lt;em&gt;HTA&lt;/em&gt;.

Careless Driving - Section 130 of the &lt;em&gt;HTA&lt;/em&gt;, upon conviction 6 demerit points, fine up to $2000 and possible incarceration for up to 6 months - Huge increase in insurance premiums (potential facility rated) or loss of insurance altogether

Caught using a hand-held device (to: view,talk, listen, emailing (reading or sending or writing) or text messaging (reading or sending or writing) or observing a GPS (global positioning system) unit (not properly affixed to the dashboard) while operating a motor vehicle (you are situated behind the steering wheel of the vehicle and are operating it and have care and control of the motor vehicle) in Ontario, Section 78 (1) to 78.1 (subsections 1-8 inclusive) of the &lt;em&gt;HTA&lt;/em&gt;, fine up to $500, risk of insurance premiums being increased.

I hope that this clarifies the difference for you. Remember to always http://fightyourtickets.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maria: You would only receive six (6) points if you were convicted of &#8220;careless driving&#8221; pursuant to section 130 of the <em>Highway Traffic Act</em>. This is what the Police use to charge motorists with when they committed acts that fell under the heading of &#8220;careless driving&#8221; ie &#8211; using your cellphone when operating a motor vehicle, which caused the driver to be distracted and affected the safety of themselves and others sharing the road. Now that this new law ( See sections 78 (1) to 78.1 (subsections 1-8 inclusive) of the <em>Highway Traffic Act</em>) has been passed, police now have the option to charge motorists under this law (which, upon conviction, will not come with demerit points, but may well cost the driver up to a $500 fine).</p>
<p>The Police still have the option (if the driver is driving carelessly while speaking on their cell phone, etc.) to charge the operator of the motor vehicle with careless driving, rather than just ticket them under sections 78(1) to 78.1 subsections 1-8 inclusive of the <em>HTA</em>.</p>
<p>Careless Driving &#8211; Section 130 of the <em>HTA</em>, upon conviction 6 demerit points, fine up to $2000 and possible incarceration for up to 6 months &#8211; Huge increase in insurance premiums (potential facility rated) or loss of insurance altogether</p>
<p>Caught using a hand-held device (to: view,talk, listen, emailing (reading or sending or writing) or text messaging (reading or sending or writing) or observing a GPS (global positioning system) unit (not properly affixed to the dashboard) while operating a motor vehicle (you are situated behind the steering wheel of the vehicle and are operating it and have care and control of the motor vehicle) in Ontario, Section 78 (1) to 78.1 (subsections 1-8 inclusive) of the <em>HTA</em>, fine up to $500, risk of insurance premiums being increased.</p>
<p>I hope that this clarifies the difference for you. Remember to always <a href="http://fightyourtickets.ca" rel="nofollow">http://fightyourtickets.ca</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maria Woski</title>
		<link>http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-phones-ban-effective-october-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/comment-page-1/#comment-3755</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Woski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really confused. It seems like the cell phone law 78.1 carries 6 demerit points but only if you also get charged with carless driving. What is you get charged under 78.1 and get the $500 fine. Are you still liable for any demerit points? I am so confused!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really confused. It seems like the cell phone law 78.1 carries 6 demerit points but only if you also get charged with carless driving. What is you get charged under 78.1 and get the $500 fine. Are you still liable for any demerit points? I am so confused!</p>
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